As the climate crisis deepens, it's easy to succumb to despair. But Steve Willis and Jan Lee, co-authors of Fairhaven, offers a different perspective—one rooted in ecological resilience, innovation, and actionable solutions. In this conversation, we explore the harsh realities of our environmental challenges while uncovering pathways to sustainable change. Can optimism coexist with the urgency of our times? Willis and Lee makes the case for hope, grounded in science, community action, and a shared commitment to a better future.