Over five months into the top CEO position, Idham has ambitious plans to transform the 31-year-old company into a startup. But how will the oldest mobile operator in town go about that? We also talk about numbers - CAPEX and earnings.

Idham admits that they have lost ground but reckons Celcom-Axiata has caught up in the past two years as they focused on fixing the fundamentals. But is that enough?

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