China is discouraging its citizens from visiting Australia due to reports of racist attacks. It has also slapped tariffs and restrictions on certain Australian products after Prime Minister Scott Morrison called for independent investigation of the pandemic outbreak. In light of ongoing tensions, we speak with Australian High Commissioner to Malaysia, HE Andrew Golędzinowski on balancing Australia's engagement with the US, its long-time ally, and China, and post-Covid-19, the opportunities for deeper economic ties with Malaysia.