June Rubis is a Political Ecologist and a doctoral candidate with the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford, in the U.K., and a trained Biologist with 12 years experience in the field. Calling herself a "recovering conservationist" she is interested in the human face of conservation other than wildlife research, and is keen to bring in indigenous social science into conservation research and work, which is essentially emphasizing indigenous ways of understanding and knowing. She joins us to discuss her work and how she's trying to decolonise conservation.